Three months ago, I published a post that begged the question “Is a cheap and cheerful pub lunch too much to ask for? It was a straightforward question, and a genuine one at that, but it stemmed from a desire to find a pub selling simple, but solid pub fayre, such as a cheese roll, a slice of pork pie, or even a charcuterie/cheese selection. It was a genuine cry from the heart against the inexorable rise of the gourmet pub, with its tarted-up fancy sandwiches smothered in rocket leaves, or a handful of potato crisps. Such fancy offerings often lead to a doubling in price of a simple roll or sandwich. The post attracted over 30 comments, a number that is a rare event for the blog, and whilst most commentators were in agreement, there was the odd dissenting voice expressing concern that here was someone who is not from the trade, preaching to those who are, and trying to tell them how to run their businesses. My response was that whilst I might not run a pub, although I did run an off-licence for five years, I have been drinking in them for the past fifty years, in numerous locations all over the country. However, given this background, it still isn’t easy to understand where exactly abominations such as the gourmet sandwich appeared from. My quest for something plain, simple and fairly priced continues, and the other week, like a maiden’s prayer, my pleas were answered. Even better was the fact that salvation came much closer to home than I thought it would, although there is a catch. The catch is that the cut-price offer on the pub in question’s food selection, is only available one day per week. The pub I am referring to is Fuggles Beer Café, or should that be Cafes? As the company operates in both Tonbridge and Tunbridge Wells, and here is what the chain has to say about its food. “Join us for a bite to eat with one of our highly regarded grilled cheese sandwiches, delicious Hot Dogs or sample some of the tastiest British cheese & charcuterie with one of our sharing boards.” So simple, tasty and easy to prepare, which is important seeing as neither of the Fuggles Café’s have a proper kitchen. What they do have, is a food preparation area behind the bar, and this is where toasties, hot dogs and charcuterie boards are put together, in full view of the customer. Hot dogs are the star attraction for me, especially as they contain a Bratwurst in a brioche bun (vegetarian Brats are available, for those so inclined). Then there is a range of different toppings or sauces to accompany. Prices range from £7.25 for a “naked” dog, up to £9.00 for something a little more fancy. Moderately expensive, especially when compared to a £2.50 Midlands cheese cob, but all-day Thursday, Fuggles run a promotion on their hot dogs, retailing them at just £6.00 each, a price that applies to all the dogs, and also includes two extras on the “naked dog.” Game on, and Paul is now able to dine out on Bratwurst and beer, for just over a tenner! What’s more Thursday is a good day for me to call at my local Fuggles, for the following reasons. “Thor’s day” is where my four-day weekend begins and is one I really look forward to. Furthermore, I have the house to myself that day, as Mrs PBT’s puts in a five-hour stint, looking after the accounts of a local scaffolding company. I drive her over in the morning and then pick her up at 2.30 – I was late today, so a black mark there! After getting few domestic chores out of the way, I like to take a walk down into Tonbridge, withdraw a bit of cash, have a look around the charity shops (I still like to pick up the odd, second-hand CD, or two), do a spot of shopping (my stuff) and then, if there’s time, call in somewhere for a quick pint. Only the one, mind you, as I have to drive over to the farm-based office where Mrs PBT’s works, and chauffeur her home.
Thursday lunchtime in Fuggles, is quiet and relaxed, or it certainly feels that way between midday and half one. Later in the afternoon, the pub starts to fill up, although the atmosphere is maintained. I expect the time will come, when I will tire of hot dogs, but for the time being, they remain a tasty and reasonably priced lunchtime snack, and the perfect accompaniment to a glass of beer.
I’ve little doubt that serial troll, and juvenile, snide remark expert, Cooking Lager, will try to make some capital out of this short article, but this sad individual needs to grow up, and also be aware that all insulting comments, even if made in jest, will be remove as soon as they are spotted. So if you are reading this CL, don’t waste your time!
27 comments:
It’s interesting because in the troll’s hometown, the Bakers Vaults does a similar hot dog offering. We ate there with Pubcurmudgeon and had a really nice lunch.
Dave,
I was in Stockport yesterday but only for changing trains for Cheadle Hulme where my five pubs included one each of Holts, Hydes Lees and Robinsons. I think only Manchester city centre can equal that.
I've gone off the Bakers Vaults since they wouldn't sell me a pint of Old Tom a few years ago. Stockport has much better Robinsons pubs, with possibly my best sandwich anywhere (turkey) at the Arden Arms.
Maybe I can catch up with you on your next trip over here ?
Paul, back in my student days, Mcr city centre could also boast Greenall Whitley, Burtonwood, Wilson's, and of course, Boddingtons.
S&N, plus Whitbread Chester's too, if you included the keg stuff!
Hi Dave, I don't mind the odd bit of banter, but CL takes things to a different level. His comments aren't even funny, let alone correct.
It's the type of schoolboy behaviour most normal people grow out of in their mid-teens, rather than in late, middle -age.
Paul,
Yes indeed.
I've mentioned elsewhere that often in 1981 and '82 we'd get the special £1 Saturday evening Stafford to Manchester Piccadilly return rail tickets for eight pints, i.e. Boddington, Burtonwoods, Greenall Whitley, Holts ( the Eagle across in Salford ), Hydes, Lees, Robinsons and Wilsons.
Half have been lost but that's not as bad as two-thirds across Britain as a whole.
I visited Manchester regularly in the seventies and early eighties: as well as the breweries listed by the two Pauls, you could find Bass, Tetley’s and Marston’s. I found an evening on Marston’s in the Harp and Shamrock (mild and bitter – no Pedigree) particularly enjoyable. And I think it was around 1981 that cask-conditioned beer from the former Threlfalls brewery in Salford became available again (Chesters Mild and Bitter). As to pub food, Paul’s hot dog looks excellent – except, unfortunately, for the brioche. I really can’t be doing with brioche when it’s paired with anything savoury (or, if I’m honest, with anything at all).
John,
I agree about brioche.
What we need is proper bread as a bap, barm, bun, cob, roll or loaf.
I agree entirely, Paul!
Is St Albans easy for you Stafford Paul?
I can confirm the quality of the Fuggles food, Paul, and our lads had those hot dogs on Christmas eve (pic towards the end of the post). Good beer, too.
https://retiredmartin.com/2023/12/28/it-was-christmas-eve-babe-in-the-drunk-tank/
Dave,
Yes, I change at Watford Junction or London for St Albans ( It's where my brother lives. He's not really one for pubs but joined me for three of my five Cheadle Hulme pubs two days ago ).
I can get to most places quite easily though ( and recently booked two early September nights in Cambridge just before learning that you will be there later in the month ! ).
Cheers,
Paul.
Stafford Paul, another places will be Lincoln. Work better for you? Dave
Dave,
I've had far too few trips eastwards lately so Lincoln would be great.
If you could let me know when you'll be there I'll see if I can join you for a pint or few.
Cheers,
Paul.
We are in Lincoln all day on September 30 and October 1. Monday and Tuesday. Either work for us. Normally Mondays do not work well with opening hours, but at from what I see online Lincoln pubs seem open all week.
Paul is welcome join as well!
Thanks Dave,
I have booked a room from Monday 30th September to Wednesday 2nd October which will give me all of Tuesday 1st October in Lincoln and look forward to learning of your intended itinerary nearer the time.
Cheers,
Paul.
Will let you know. You been to Lincoln? We day tripped there twice. This is our first stay there. What a pub rich town.
Dave,
I knew Lincoln with seven nights there from 1981 to 1992, but much can change over more than thirty years.
Forty-eight hours there this time should mean that I can catch up without rushing.
Cheers,
Paul.
Stafford Paul and Dave, seeing as the blog seems to have morphed into a forum for arranging meet-ups, do either, or both of you, mind if I join you? An old school friend of mine lived in Lincoln, back in the early 80's, so I spent several weekends there getting to know the local pubs.
Having aid that, the start of the week (Mon - Weds), wouldn't work for me, so Lincoln is probably out. Cambridge might be OK, as it's dead easy for me to get to, via Thames-link, but again I am rather bound by the Thursday-Sunday time-slot.
Martin, your two lads look like they enjoyed the Fuggles hot dogs, and of course they taste even better when the prices are reduced!
John and Paul, the jury's out on brioche buns, as far as I'm concerned, although given the choice I much prefer proper bread.
For some reason I left Marston's off that list, which was foolish, given the number of visits I made to the Harp & Shamrock. Cask Tetley's, of course, was available at the Coach & Horses, near Piccadilly station, but the pub was never a favourite with my friends and I. An amazing choice of beer though, in Manc pubs, back in the mid-70's.
Paul,
No, we’d never mind you joining us for a pint or few. Only early last evening on the Ruby Mild in the Beacon Hotel I was reminded of your Proper Day Out up here in March and the excitement of regularly looking at our watches before we arrived.
Seeing as the blog seems to have morphed into a forum for arranging meet-ups I can confirm that a few days ago I booked accommodation in Cambridge from Thursday 5th to Saturday 7th September for well established cask beers in proper pubs, some of which I first used over fifty years ago. A highlight of my trip might be using my bus pass for a Friday lunchtime in the Queens Head at Newton which I’ve never used before ( a trip there several years ago was cancelled due to me looking after hens for a local farmer on holiday ).
Maybe “the jury's out on brioche buns” but those of us committed to a healthy lifestyle, and not wanting our weight to creep much above 14 stone, don’t welcome our daily bread being unnecessarily stuffed full of eggs and butter. Mark my words, the “health lobby” will attend to them once they’ve eliminated alcoholic drinks.
With Marstons pubs scattered around Stafford we didn’t really bother with their beer in Manchester. And in the wonderful Coach and Horses we usually had the Winkles Saxon Cross Bitter rather than the Tetleys.
Paul, first, yes, thanks for letting us use your blog to arrange our plans:) Second, love meeting up with people and all that has prevented us from meeting you in the past is our love of the north of England. My brother and I are on this trip with our wives who both have a deep love of northern coastal towns. Hence, our focus north on the front part of the trip. We are in Waterbeach September 21 and 22 to verify the accuracy of RM's comments on the village. One of these days we are in Cambridge the other at Audley End.
Lincoln does not look like the days work for you. We will be there the second half of the 29th, but S Paul is not there until Monday. On October 2 we drive from Lincoln to St Albans so we will have the second half of our day there. My brother and his wife depart on Oct 3.
My wife and I are in Chichester from October 3-7 with possibly two days in Portsmouth to see the Naval museum. It looks quite large. This time frame would work for the two of us. Let me know your thoughts after you think it through.
Paul and Dave, I have watched, with growing fascination, the expanding thread on the blog regarding possible “meet up” arrangements. First, I’m glad to be of assistance and second, thank-you both for your extended welcome to include me, if possible, in one or two of them.
As you point out Dave, Lincoln would not work for me, but Cambridge quite possibly would, as it is easy get to by train. I am currently waiting for our son Matthew to confirm his holiday dates, as we are planning a family “road trip” to Yorkshire and Northumberland, and September is the month he has in mind. I will know more within the next couple of days.
Chichester and/or Portsmouth are relatively easy for me as well, so a possible early October meet-up there, might be possible, so watch this space.
Paul,
Everyone's visiting Northumberland this year !
I doubt if you'll miss the Free Trade in Berwick ( the North's answer to the South's Free Press in Cambridge ) or the Queens Head in Alnwick, Craft Union's most northerly pub.
Paul,
For Yorkshire you can't get much more central than York and I doubt if you'll find better value than the Sea Horse ( Sam Smiths, central, own car park, from £90 for two adults in an ensuite room with breakfast, OBB for £3.20 ) or the Waggon and Horses ( Batemans, nearly as central ).
Don't forget that pubs are for bed and breakfast, not just beer and brioche burgers.
I'd give up on Premier Inns now that they're giving up on their adjoining pubs.
I doubt if Martin and Will will let you leave Yorkshire without a day in Sheffield !
Hi Paul, neither of us have visited Northumberland before, although we have travelled through the county, on trips to Scotland. If I was travelling solo, I would opt for the Sam Smiths pub, as I prefer giving my custom to independent operators, rather than chains such as Premier.
Unfortunately, the lady of the house is firmly wedded to Premier, even though we have stayed in some pretty poor ones - Ross-on-Wye, and Southampton West spring to mind. The McDonald Spa, at Botley Park, that we stayed at, prior to the cruise wasn’t all that special either.
An added complication is young Matthew, who might be joining us, for part of the trip, or possibly all of it, so he will need somewhere that charges a reasonable room rate for single occupancy.
I will arrange a separate visit to Yorkshire (probably Leeds), to meet up with Martin and Will.
I understand Paul.
"Opt for the Sam Smiths pub" makes me realise that Humphrey isn't known for doing things by halves, yet that's how he does his price increases - OBB from £2 to £3 with the pandemic and my room in the Sea Horse from £60 last August to £90 now.
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