I was sitting in the Student Union Bar at the time, with course mate Chris, when Nick approached us, trying to drum up support for the trip to Marston’s. Although I was tempted, Chris and I had already made other arrangements, and it would have been somewhat churlish for me to have abandoned these in favour of the brewery trip. Whilst I was weighing this over in my mind, Nick proved very persistent in his arguments, even broadcasting an appeal over the Student’s Union Tannoy system, extolling the virtues of Marston’s beers, and the opportunity of seeing how they were brewed.
Nick’s persistence worked, even though I felt the Tannoy appeal was aimed primarily at me, but Chris felt differently, and whilst we didn’t exactly fall out over the matter, we agreed to go our separate ways that afternoon. I still had some misgivings over letting down a friend in favour of another, but these feelings were soon dispelled by the prospect of touring Marston’s Brewery, and sampling some of the beers produced there.
A relatively short coach ride saw us arriving in Britain’s brewing capital in time for a lunchtime drink. The tour wasn’t scheduled to start until mid-afternoon, so we headed for the Albion Hotel, the nearest Marston’s outlet to the brewery, and effectively at the time, the brewery tap. The Albion had been chosen by the tour organiser, a mature, Welsh student called Gareth who, like Nick, was studying to be an Environmental Health Inspector. Unlike Nick, Gareth already had a job working for Manchester City Council, who were sponsoring his studies. Having been around a while, Gareth turned out to be quite a connoisseur of good beer and pubs, as well as having rather an eye for the ladies!
Several pints later we presented ourselves at the brewery entrance, just a short distance away. Unfortunately, I remember very little about the brewery itself, partially because the beer I’d consumed that lunchtime had clouded my judgement, but mainly because I knew very little about the brewing process at the time. This is pity, as undoubtedly, we would have seen the soon to be scrapped, Burton Union system in action. At the time, Bass also employed this system of fermentation for their stronger beers, and I think I’m correct in saying there were far more union sets at the Bass Brewery, than there were at Marston’s. After our tour of the plant, we were conducted into the brewery’s Sports and Social Club. Those of a certain age will remember it being quite common for companies of a certain size to provide facilities where employees could relax after work, or in the evenings, and Marston’s were no exception. This was the one part of the visit I do remember, as the hospitality shown to us was on the generous side, with plenty of food and copious samples of the brewery’s products. It was there that I sampled Marston’s Pedigree for the first time, and very good it was too, despite being dispensed by "top-pressure." The latter system was in common use during the early 1970’s and, as its name implies, top-pressure involves applying carbon-dioxide gas, under pressure, into the top of the cask (via the spile hole). This forces the beer out of the cask, and along the line, to a tap on the bar. It came into being as a way of preventing cask beer from going sour (oxidising), but unfortunately the excess gas tended to dissolve in the beer making it fizzy and compromising the taste. I was already familiar with Marston’s weaker, but eminently enjoyable Burton Bitter; this being a fairly common drink in the company’s Manchester pubs, but Pedigree was a new beer so far as I was concerned. The following term, the nearest Marston’s pub to where Nick and I lived, ended up stocking Pedigree, but that’s another story. As far as the trip was concerned, the journey back was uneventful, although I have vague recollections of stopping somewhere en-route at a Bank’s pub. This was mainly to answer the call of nature, but of course also entailed another pint or two!By the time I arrived back at my lodgings, or “digs” as they were called back then, I was slightly the worse for drink and too late for the evening meal.
Fortunately, I had eaten well at the brewery, so I went to bed early to sleep off the surfeit of ale I’d consumed and awoke the next morning feeling none the worse. Later, that day I was able to recount my exploits to my course mate Chris, and although he put a brave face on things, claiming he had had an enjoyable afternoon, deep down I’m sure he was secretly wishing he’d come to Burton with Nick and me.
That trip to Marston’s was to be the first of several dozen brewery visits I have enjoyed over the years, and whilst I’d like a return trip there sometime, it won’t be the same now, given the recent decision by the company’s current owners, to scrap the Burton Union system.
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Hi Paul.. How are you keeping . Have a question The Swan in West Malling was owned by I recall drinking Bass and possibly IPA. I'm sure I'm right..can you recall
Blimey you look young in that photo, Paul !
Memories, good article
In the pub last night we were discussing your article.
Did you travel the more rural route via Buxton or maybe the M6 and through Stoke. Be interested to know. Where did you do toilet stops. Was the scran any good?
Happy Peddy days
Hi Anonymous, according to an old Kent Pub Guide (1966), the Swan in West Malling was indeed owned by Charrington, so would have stocked the brewery's IPA, alongside Draught Bass. It is now a restaurant, rather then a pub.
There was anther pub, called the Lobster Pot, in Swan Street, but that closed in 2014, due to complaints about noise - it hosted live music events.
I am keeping well, btw.
I was young, back then Martin, but it was 50 years ago! I'm not sure where that half century has gone, but it's a lesson to us all, not to let time slip away.
With regard to the photos, there are no contemporary shots of that brewery visit, as people just didn't take that many pics, in the days before digital photographs. The two B&W photos, date from around that time, and the person in the top pic, second from left, is my friend and fellow course-mate, Chris, who is mentioned in the narrative.
Most of the other photos, are recent shots of Salford University, taken during last June's visit to Manchester.
Coach Boy, half a century is a long time ago, so I can't remember much about the journey from Salford to Manchester.
We definitely didn't travel via Buxton, and I don't recall going through Stoke, either. After looking at the map, my conclusion is the M6 would have been the fastest and most sensible route back, but I honestly can't remember.
As I mentioned in the post, we stopped at a Bank's pub, for a pee-break on the way back. I'm not sure where it was, but given Bank's trading area at the time, it would still have been a location in Staffordshire.
Sorry, that first line should have read Salford to Burton!
Blame the error on the strong, dark beers at yesterday's Dark & Delicious Beer Festival, held at the Cooper's Arms, Crowborough. Full report to follow, in due course.
Paul,
If you stopped at a Banks's's pub for a piss break on the way back it would probably have been one of those only just acquired by them from Higson's, the Glebe in Stoke, Albion or Trumpet in Hanley or Bull's Vaults in Newcastle.
Any luck identifying the pub yet Paul?
Why don't you contact Potteries CAMRA. They may be your best bet, if you are desperate to identify the pub you stopped at for a wee. I think you would have had to go off the main route to get to a Banks pub so I can't help.
Would you know if the car park was big enough for a coach, or any other features of the pub.
Have you thought of asking some of the other students if they remember. We could put a call out on our facebook if you want. PP
Anonymous and Potter Pubweb, after 50 years, the Bank's pub we stopped at for a pee break, is more or less irrelevant.
Furthermore, after half a century I have completely lost touch with everyone I was at university with, so there is no point in pursuing this, any further. Sorry, but that's what happens over extended periods of time.
Thanks for the info on the Bank's pubs, Paul. The only thing I remember is the one we stopped at was on the edge of a town.
As I said to the other two, the pub isn't really relevant to the narrative, but it did at least allow me to renew my acquaintance with Bank's Bitter!
I think your bus would have went back Burton - Ashbourne - Leek - Macclesfield - Stockport - Greater Manchester
At that time I think there were a number of Banks pubs in Leek, so it may have been there you stopped for a pee. How ironic a leak in Leek. Be interested to hear the thoughts of others.
Paul,
If it was a leak in Leek then it was most likely the Sea Lion on the corner of Russell Street and Brook Street, although that's hardly the edge of town, which had just transferred from Higsons the same as the four I mentioned.
Paul,
Over my teatime carvery and Pedigrees I've remembered that Banks's had pubs in Leek before those they bought from Higsons so it wouldn't necessarily have been the Sea Lion, maybe the Talbot. I shall have to do more research.
On Sea Lions I've stayed in two of them, at New Quay and York. I particularly recommend Humphrey's in York, £60 last summer for a twin or double room and breakfasts. And of course OBB at £3.
Paul,
Thinking about this overnight I realised that I should consult the 1974 Good Beer Guide and that indicates that you almost certainly stopped off at the Sea Lion as that was the only Staffordshire pub listed north-west of Burton, the next nearest being in Abbots Bromley ( too soon ) and Burslem ( quite a detour ).
Good thinking on the Sea Lion Paul. What about The Talbot or The Unicorn, even though it was not in the GBG. Or would you think the Salford students would only use GBG pubs. This is really niggling away at me now and dying to know the answer.
Macca,
No, I think the Salford students would gone for the GBG pub.
One of life's mysteries solved as far as I'm concerned !
Apart from eliminating a few potential candidates, we are still a long way from establishing the identity of the mystery Banks pub. A big thank-you though to everyone, for your many and varied probabilities, and special thanks to Stafford Paul and Macca, for your meticulously researched suggestions.
What we are looking at is a rather fleeting pub visit that occurred 50 years ago. It was a visit that was only really memorable for stocking a beer that I’d drunk just a couple of times previously, and it obviously didn’t leave that much of an impression on my 19-year-old mind. As I said before, the only thing I remember, apart from the beers and a much-needed pee, was the pub being in a relatively rural location, and just off a main road.
The suggestion that the group of students I was with would have used the 1974 Good Beer Guide, unfortunately doesn’t stack up. I had a copy, as did my friend Nick, but I’m fairly certain that neither of us thought to bring the Guide along, especially as we weren’t responsible for organising the visit. In addition, I only joined the trip at the last minute, and went directly from the Student Union building, rather than returning to my digs, first.
It’s far more likely that Welsh, mature student Gareth – mentioned in the narrative, chose the pub, and he would have done so based on past experiences, rather than the GBG, although having said that, he did like a decent drop of ale. Finally, with both mobile phones recording and Google tracking people’s movements, such a lapse in memory could easily be recovered, today.
Anyway, it’s been an interesting debate, even though it’s ultimately proven inconclusive, so once again, thank you to everyone for your contributions.
I think you gents need some lateral thinking. Maybe it was a Banks Free Trade account. This means Banks do not own the site but supply the beer. Often these premises would have signs which suggested they may be company owned, when in fact they were not. The business was often secured with long term loan deals. Hope you don't mind me pointing that out to you guys, and filling in the gaps in your knowledge.
Hi Maggie, thank-you for your input into this conundrum. I certainly don't mind you putting your own thoughts and ideas forward as a potential solution to the identity of the mystery Bank's pub.
It depends, I suppose, on how prolific Banks were at the time, when it came to supplying the free trade. This is a question I am unable to answer, but I'm sure there are others who are; especially those with local knowledge, or people living in the trading area of the original Banks company, before their merger with Marston's.
As I said previously, such memory lapses wouldn't occur in today's world of mobile phones, Google etc.
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