Friday 14 August 2020

I'm with Tim on this one!

 It’s very rare that I find myself agreeing with Tim Martin, founder and chairman of JD Wetherspoon, especially after his support and enthusiasm for a damaging, hard Brexit, but on the issue, I am about to relate, Mr Martin is spot on.

The case in question concerns a statement made by Richard Pennington, Professor of Bacteriology at Aberdeen University, in which he claimed there is a link between drinking indoors in pubs and a recent rise in Coronavirus cases. The Wetherspoon’s chairman has subsequently demanded that the scientist should publish hard evidence to back up his claim.  

The professor was referring to the recent spike in cases seen in the city of Aberdeen, which has led to the imposition, by the Scottish government, of a localised "lock-down" shutting all pubs, bars and restaurants in the area. Speaking on BBC Radio 5 Live, the professor said that pubs were risky places for the spread of Coronavirus, as “hot and steamy” environments help Covid-19 to “get about.” Tim Martin has now challenged Professor Pennington to publish his findings so they can be “properly peer reviewed.”

A statement from Mr Martin in the Morning Advertiser, said that whilst some JDW outlets had experienced “individual cases” among staff and customers, they had not experienced an outbreak. He added there was nothing which could be described as an outbreak, and so far, there had not been a case of transmission from person to person among staff, or from staff to customers, or vice-versa.

In the light of this, Tim Martin stressed the importance of the pub industry to staff, customers and the treasury, and reiterated his call for an in-depth analysis of Professor Pennington’s findings and challenged him to publish the basis of his assumptions about any possible link between pubs and Coronavirus.

Now I doubt very much whether the professor will put his money where his mouth is; especially as his pronouncement seems little more than an assumption, but putting two and two together and making five is something that has characterised the Coronavirus saga since the beginning of 2020.

If anything, the use of science to drive a certain political or behavioural agenda has accelerated over the course of the past eight months, with dozens of so-called “experts” all eagerly chipping in with their own thoughts and comments. Some, of course, have been well-thought out and have helped our understanding of this novel-virus, but far too many have been sensationalist or misleading.

As a scientist, this "politicisation" of science makes me very cross, especially as good science (and there is still plenty of that out there) is working hard for the benefit of us all, but bad science is leading us in the opposite direction and it is not somewhere we ought to be travelling to.

Now I don’t intend on getting bogged down here, as this is a subject in its own right, but I do want to mention briefly,  the mathematical modellers, whose predictions (not always, by any means accurate),  have influenced, and in many cases driven, government policy from the start. Pandemics, such as Coronavirus, don’t always behave in the nice, neatly ordered way that computer-generated modelling says they should, and neither do populations, and this is now starting to show in various parts of the world.

Unfortunately, false assumptions, based on flawed science, attract the attention of the mainstream media, which remains obsessed with anything remotely connected to Coronavirus, especially if they can put a negative/sensationalist spin on the story.

So, to return to Tim Martin, who is quite right in calling for studies into virus spreading within pubs, to be published, along with proper scrutiny of the type of generalised statements put out by scientists and politicians to suit their own agendas. Given the measures put in place by licensees and pub owners throughout the country, to keep people safe and mitigate any risk – real or imagined, why should pubs and restaurants be regarded as less safe than say travelling on crowded buses and trains or shopping in a busy supermarket?

Pubs have received more than their fair share of bad publicity during this outbreak and seem to be used as scapegoats every time there’s even the merest hint of Coronavirus. It’s almost as if the powerful health lobbyists, at Public Health England are using the situation to promote their own anti-alcohol, "kill-joy" message, which sadly is being taken up the UK government. And in Scotland, just yesterday, First Minister Nicola Sturgeon was once again singling out pubs for criticism, virtually repeating Professor Pennington’s words. 

We would all like this situation to be over, as soon as possible, and for a degree of normality to return to our lives.  Properly managed businesses, whether they are factories, distribution centres, retail outlets or pubs and restaurants are helping this process along the way, whilst at the same time ensuring employees and customers remain safe. Why then single out certain sectors of our struggling economy?

Politicians are very keen on stressing that we are all in this together, so stop playing politics and get people behind what you are doing, instead of alienating them. That way we can bring about an end to this pandemic, that little bit sooner.

 

 

9 comments:

PetesQuiz said...

I also agree with Tim...some transparent data and facts would be nice (for a change)!

As someone with a science degree, I too despair at the bastardisation of science in the media and by politicians. I first became aware of this with the 'Passive Smoking' scam that ultimately paved the way for the smoking ban in pubs. (I'm a non-smoker!)

Then you have the whole 'man-made' Climate Change malarkey based on falsified data and climate models (which are very crude approximations, at best!)

Then you have similar tactics employed in the coronavirus pandemic - dodgy models and junk science!

I could go on....but I'll save it for our next Proper Pubs Day Out...if we're ever allowed again!

Paul Bailey said...

Thanks Pete, us proper scientists need to stick together!

The only thing worse than the junk science that has pervaded during this pandemic, has been the appalling and, at times, totally misleading reporting by the main-stream media. Still, never let the truth get in the way of a good story!

I'm sure we'll all be allowed out again before too long, despite the best efforts of government, pseudo-scientists and inept journalists.

Any ideas regarding the destination for the next Proper Pubs Day Out? I seem to remember Chester being penciled in, which would be fine with me; although at the moment anywhere with a selection of good characterful pubs (and decent beer), would suit.

Britain Beermat said...

As a non scientist I concur! Lazy stereotypes I think ...not every pub is a Friday night DJ and heaving sweaty bodies

Paul Bailey said...

Even more lazy stereo-typing BBM, with the news that Health Secretary, Matt Hancock, is to abolish Public Health England.

Now I know my article took a swipe at the organisation, but it was nothing more than a dig. It makes little sense to scrap the body responsible for dealing with the most serious pandemic, in over a century.

To ditch PHE in the middle of this pandemic, is ludicrous, and smacks of desperation on the part of the government, who are determined to shift the blame for the mis-handling of the crisis, away from their own ineptitude.

Knee-jerk, gesture politics, at is worst. You really couldn't make this sort of behaviour up!

RedNev said...

I don't agree with some of the previous comments but I've not come here to argue with them.

We have the most incompetent government of my lifetime trying to cope with a pandemic while at the same time trying to privatise mechanisms for dealing with it as they go along; for example, the £11 million of our money that was squandered on a track & trace system that didn't work and was ditched without having been used. But then, you are never going to get any sense out of a PM who endorsed his mate's claim that he drove to Castle Barnard to check his eyesight. The fact they considered that to be a plausible explanation shows how stupid they think we all are. What it actually showed is how stupid they are.

Their frequent claims to be "following the science" demonstrates that they've no idea what science is: it is not an instruction manual that you can just flip open to find the right answer, especially not with a virus that could at any point mutate.

Although I thought Tim Martin made a complete prat of himself over leaving the EU, I'd agree he is right to demand that assertions about COVID-19 and pubs be verified through informed scrutiny, and not just accepted without a murmur because of the scientific status of the person who is making them..

Paul Bailey said...

I agree Nev, that the current shower running the country really are the most incompetent administration ever. They’ve only been in power since December, and already they’ve been embroiled in corruption scandals, performed countless U-turns and have been making up policy on the hoof. Then there are the peerages awarded to party donors and wealthy Brexit backers.

To top it all, the UK is effectively being run by an unelected “special advisor” who seems to have his own agenda, and can do no wrong in the PM’s eyes. Combine this all with “bad science” and I’m surprised we’re doing as well as we actually are.

All of this leads me to ask, why keep picking on pubs? All of the ones I have been in so far, appear to have to right measures in place and the majority of customers seem happy to comply. You are always going to get the odd “bad apple” and unfortunately these are the outlets our shambolic newspapers like to pick up on.

I suppose it was ever so, but with the press controlled by shady, tax-dodging, non-domicile billionaires, such as Murdoch, Viscount Rothermere and the Barclay Brothers, is it any wonder the country’s in such a mess?

RedNev said...

Members of our political class don't really like pubs, or indeed anywhere where ordinary people may gather in large numbers, because they fear what ordinary people combining together may do, especially after a few drinks. I don't think it's a moralistic anti-alcohol attitude, because they'd be quite happy if everyone regularly got off their heads at home on cheap supermarket drink. I believe that this explains why governments do nothing about our high levels of alcohol duty in pubs: they welcome pub closures - despite their occasional waffling about 'the great British pub' - and regard any resulting unemployment as a price worth paying. I think it also explains the huge price differential between pubs and supermarket.

On those occasions when people do combine and rise up - Peasants' Revolt, Chartists, Peterloo, Tolpuddle Martyrs, Suffragettes, Bloody Sunday, General Strike, Miners' Strike, etc - they've always had the full force of the state ruthlessly hurled at them. Before World War 1, Winston Churchill sent troops and gunboats to Liverpool to deal with a strike: two men were shot dead. Our government would probably confine football to being watched only on TV at home if they thought for a second they could get away with it.

Paul Bailey said...

I agree with your points Nev, and would add that much of the behaviour we are continuing to see from our hapless government, is of a controlling nature.

The emergency legislation, introduced at the start of the pandemic, is a tyrannical government's dream, as it suspends civil liberties, rights of association and freedom of movement for all UK citizens. In short, it is an enabling act, and look where that led in Germany, during the 1930's!

On an historical basis, I would add 17th & 18th Century Coffee Houses to the list of meeting places looked down on by the ruling classes, as establishments where dissent and agitation for political change took place.

Yes, governments remain fearful of anywhere where ordinary folk can gather and express their concern about the state of the nation, their lot in life and all manner of things that are wrong in society.

retiredmartin said...

Far too much agreement on here.

Beermat visits pubs almost as regularly as I do and I trust his perspective from the normal pubs he frequents. Not every pub has shout dancing louts, most have adapted well to the need to keep folk apart and sat down.

And yes, the media (particularly the BBC) have let us down again. Too interested in click bait, politician bashing and baiting, and lacking the intelligence to bring us consistent reporting. History will not be kind to the Beeb.