Sunday 23 April 2023

Outposts, rarities plus the occasional, unexpected delight

Back in the early days of CAMRA ale lovers often knew exactly where they were in the country, just from a quick glance at the name of the owning brewery on the signs, or on the side of the pub, was sufficient to inform drinkers, what they might expect. Back then, the majority of the surviving local independent breweries, had a clearly defined and often quite rigid trading area. So, for example, if you were in the West Sussex town of Horsham, or thereabouts, it would be no surprise to see the name King & Barnes featuring on many of the local pubs. Similarly, if you were in Dorset, and close to the county town of Dorchester, local brewers, Eldridge Pope, would be most prominent name appearing on local pubs.

There were numerous other examples, some perhaps covering a wider area, due to the brewery in question, being a larger concern. Examples such as Brain’s of Cardiff, Robinson’s of Stockport and Thwaites of Blackburn, spring to mind. The thing was, drinkers and beer connoisseurs, knew what to expect, and fully expected the necessity of travelling to different areas, and sometimes even just different towns, in order to track down and ample the wares of a particular brewer.

This was one of the joys of being a beer lover during the late 1970’s to early 80’s, and also part of the fun. Things started to change with the advent of beer agencies, who sourced and then offered cask ales drawn from a much wider area of the country. Later on, the gradual appearance of a growing number of new, start-up, independent small brewers, added another complication to the mix, even if it did improve the choice available to the drinker.

For the purpose of this article, I want to go back to those early, pre-internet, and pre-Smartphone, days when, printed guides, maps, and good old-fashioned paper and pen were essential tools for those in search of a good, or indeed unfamiliar beer. CAMRA’s Good Beer Guide proved indispensable in this respect, as did a pioneering book published in 1973, called “The Beer Drinker’s Companion.”  Assiduously written and researched by Frank Baillie – a beer connoisseur if ever there was one, the book listed each one of the draught (cask), keg and bottled beers produced by the individual breweries.

Frank also told drinkers where they could find pubs belonging these breweries.  A statement, such as," within a 30-mile radius of Little Topping," might suffice, but often he would add a statement saying where “outposts” of the brewery, might be found outside of that radius. For example, the late, lamented Horsham brewers, King & Barnes owned 58 pubs, that were easy to find in Horsham and the surrounding villages. Further out, a little more detective work was needed. Outposts were listed in towns such as Reigate, and villages such as Blackbrook near Dorking, and Eridge, near Tunbridge Wells.

The Huntsman still provides refreshment to rail travellers, arriving at Eridge station, although today the pub is owned by Dorset brewers, Hall & Woodhouse aka Badger Ales. It now represents something of lone outpost for the Blandford Forum based company. When I moved to west Kent, King & Barnes actually owned a pub in the county, namely the Hopbine, at Petteridge, near Paddock Wood. Today, the pub is a free house, but back in the day, landlord Mike Winser, served a very good pint of K&B Sussex Bitter, alongside a selection of the brewery’s seasonal beers.

The Huntsman isn’t the only anomaly in the west Kent area, as the village of Riverhead, which today is a district of Sevenoaks, is where Hertford brewers, McMullen & Sons Ltd, have a lone outpost to the south of the River Thames, in the form of the Bullfinch. This attractive looking pub is just a stone’s throw from the massive Tesco superstore, just off the London Road, but strangely enough the presence of this Mac’s pub, is rarely acknowledged by the local CAMRA branch.

This might have something to do with the branch’s late chairman, Scottish Iain, a man who, shall we say, wasn’t over enamoured with McMullen’s beers. We suspect this antipathy dated back to when Iain lived in Hertfordshire, but strangely enough he wasn’t the only person I’ve known who wasn’t keen on the company’s beers. I, on the other hand, don’t mind Mac’s beers, although I don’t pretend to be a massive fan. Back in my student days, a friend and I cycled from Barking to Waltham Abbey, a distance of around 16 miles - although it seemed much longer at the time, in order to sample McMullen’s for the first time. 

Mac’s had a pub in the town, and this represented their nearest tied house to Barking, where my university friend lived with his father during the summer vacation. Checking back in the 1974 Good Beer Guide – the only guide available to point us towards the nearest McMullen’s outlet, the pub in question was the Angel, in Sun Street. Furthermore, according to What Pub, the Angel is still a McMullen’s pub, nearly half a century later. So, what exactly is Kent’s lone McMullen’s outlet like? 

Surprisingly spacious, is the answer, and judging by the number of vehicles in the car park, popular too. It also offers a warm welcome as I discovered the other Saturday, when I left Mrs PBT’s to do the shopping, and called in at the Bullfinch for a flat white, plus a quick look around. The coffee was needed as the visit was the day after the previous day’s Birmingham pub walkabout!

It was quite a few years since I’d last set foot in the pub, and that occasion had been for a poorly attended, CAMRA social.  Public transport to Riverhead is non-existent in the evening, and the few of us who did turn up, faced a 30-minute walk from Sevenoaks station. This time around, the Bullfinch appeared far more spacious, and despite the diners, plus the odd casual drinker, there were plenty of spare chairs and tables. McMullen’s IPA and Country Best Bitter were the cask ales available, along with a beer called Harlequin, from the company’s Rivertown Brewing subsidiary. 

I had a brief chat with the landlord, whilst waiting for my flat white to be poured. The discussion centred on the pub’s Gavin & Stacey themed, quiz evening. Mrs PBT’s is a big fan of this sit-com; I’m rather less keen, but it seemed a good reason to tempt her out for a drink. If not, the Bullfinch looks a reasonable bet for a meal, with a varied and interesting food offering to go with the McMullen’s beer. 

I’d be interested to learn of other “outpost” pubs, that people know of, because even in these times of mega-choice, it’s good to hear of the odd “lone wolf”, flying the flag for a family-owned, independent brewer.

17 comments:

Ian Worden said...

Wasn't there an issue with McMullens using cask breathers? It's hard to imagine now the emotion that the simple CB generated at AGMs and other CAMRA gatherings in the early 80s. The CAMRA Technical Committee actually said that they wouldn't affect the beer, if properly used, but various activists then said "how do we know they being properly used?" which would have meant a celler inspection of every pub nominated for the GBG - instead of going by what the beer tasted like.

On outliers, Youngs had one (may still do?) at Plumpton Green in Sussex, reputably because John Young kept horses down there and raced them on the local course. They were not to be mistaken for those hauling the brewery drays, which I use to pass on the way to Earlsfield station to go to work each morning.

Paul Bailey said...

Hi Ian, thanks for reminding me about the dreaded cask breathers - a device which, as you rightly point out was approved by CAMRA's Technical Committee, but then rejected by the anti- extraneous CO2, in any form, die-hards within the campaign.

We had a handful of them in my local branch at the time, and I remember one individual standing up at a GBG selection meeting, and arguing that a particular pub couldn't appear in the Guide, because it used CBs. When challenged on this, by the member who had carried out the inspection, and who had also been shown the cellar by the licensee, this person was adamant the pub used these devices, because "he could taste it," in the beer served up at the bar!

Blows were nearly exchanged at that meeting, and that was when my disillusionment with CAMRA really set in. The impertinence as well, of asking to see to see the pub cellar was a step too far for me, so I ceased my involvement with the entire GBG selection process.

According to What Pub, the Fountain Inn, at Plumpton Green, is currently on the market, as part of Young's sale of the Ram Pub Group. As with many other things concerning Young's once revered brewery, I'm sure John Young must be turning in his grave over this latest development!

retiredmartin said...

Of course, CAMRA couldn't actually ban cask breathers (or autovacs) or fake cider or the latest fad. All they can do is not put a pub in the Beer Guide or up for an award. But then local CAMRA post about 1990 (Beer Orders) were never much interested in family brewers like McMullens, Arkells, Wadworths anyway, and often the McMullens pubs weren't the greatest showcases for their beers anyway !

Today CAMRA members (at least on Discourse) don't visit areas of the country to taste family brewer beers at source; they expect their local family brewer pub to put on guest beers from around the country !

T'other Paul. said...


Yes, Frank Baillie in his The Beer Drinker’s Companion book noted “outposts” – for Horsham brewers King & Barnes “Outposts were listed in towns such as Reigate” and that’s how 49 years ago I got to their Nutley Hall there. I was in the nick of time as on walking in the landlord was putting a tea towel over the handpumps but still served me. If a couple of minutes later I would have had to wait a few hours possibly jeopardising my chance of drinking beer from all of the southern brewers with only four nights away – Colchester, Patchem, Litton Cheney and Penzance.
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I always voted in favour of cask breathers but there was always a small majority against.

Curmudgeon said...

Yes, the fact that the smaller brewers had clearly geographically delineated tied estates was one of the most interesting features of the early days of beer enthusiasm. You had to actually visit the area to sample the beer.

A few from my neck of the woods:

* Hydes had an unexpected cluster of pubs in the mining villages west of Wrexham. Not sure how many, if any, they still own.
* Border Breweries of Wrexham had a solitary Cheshire outpost in the Olde Custom House in Chester
* Higsons of Liverpool had an odd scattering of pubs in East Cheshire and North Staffordshire, including the George in Stockport and going as far as Leek.

In contrast, Holts used to have a very tightly drawn estate with nothing more than about ten miles from the brewery.

Marston's over the years accumulated a very wide distribution of pubs stretching from Winchester to Penrith. They sold the Hampshire ones to Greene King, and the Cumbrian ones to Jennings, only to reacquire the latter when they took over the company.

Paul Bailey said...

Following up on the comments here, I’m sure that Ian is correct about the CAMRA ban on cask breathers, compromising the chances of Mc Mullen’s pubs appearing in the GBG. This is what happens when you allow the lunatics to take over the asylum, but CAMRA is by no means the only organisation that has suffered from this.

I also agree with Martin’s observation that many CAMRA branches turned their backs on their local family brewers, in favour of the new kids on the block. I’m talking here about the man in a shed, new-wave brewers, turning out lots of trendy, over-hopped, citrus flavour beers. I’m not a member of discourse, but I can just picture the type of member Martin is referring to.

Stafford Paul, snap! Nutley Hall, at the back of Reigate, was the pub where I enjoyed my first pints of King & Barnes, and what cracking beer it was too. It’s a good job the landlord was decent enough to serve you. What were the other southern brewers, whose beers you sampled on that tour?

Mudgie, I’m sure you and I have written on this matter before, and probably several times over. Unless you were actually around in those early days of “beer enthusiasm,” it’s hard to convey that sense of excitement and anticipation associated with sampling a local brewery’s wares, and one of its pubs, for the first time.

John Lester said...

That sense of excitement and anticipation certainly strikes a chord with me: it was summer 1972 when I first took a serious interest in beer and breweries, having noticed a wooden Fremlins crate behind the bar of the Castle in Tooting (then, as now, a Young’s pub) while I was delivering bread as a holiday job, and wondering whether and where Fremlins were still brewing. Later that summer I spent a week travelling around the north west of England with a friend, and finding and sampling various local breweries and their beers (including a notable night spent in a Yates and Jackson’s pub in Lancaster). Our enjoyment was enhanced by not knowing how many local and regional breweries existed or where they were, though on my return home I found a copy of the Brewery Manual in the local library and was then able to compile a full list. As for Fremlins, their version of Trophy Bitter became one of my favourites – and you could still drink Fremlins Mild and, in bottles, County Ale and English Ale. Exciting times indeed.

T'other Paul. said...

"What were the other southern brewers, whose beers you sampled on that tour?"
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Monday 8th July
Rayments, Bishops Stortford
McMullens, Bishops Stortford
Cooks, Chelmsford
Ridleys, Chelmsford
Grays, Chelmsford
Adnams, Colchester
Monday night, Colchester Youth Hostel
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Tuesday 9th July
Fullers, Croydon
King and Barnes, Reigate
Harveys + Beards, Lewes
Tuesday night, Patchem Youth Hostel
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Wednesday 10th July
Burts, Lake
Hall and Woodhouse, Ferndown and Bere Regis
Devenish, Bridport
Palmers, Bridport and Litton Cheney
Wednesday night, Litton Cheney Youth Hostel
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Thursday 11th July
Roberts ( Blue Anchor ), Helston
St Austell, Helston and Penzance
Devenish (again) Penzance
Thursday night, Penzance Youth Hostel
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Yes indeed, "it’s hard to convey that sense of excitement and anticipation associated with sampling a local brewery’s wares, and one of its pubs, for the first time". Fifteen times in four days made for a memorable holiday !





T'other Paul said...

John,
Yes, my grandmother lived in Kent and I could hardly believe how good the Fremlins version of Trophy Bitter was especially having been brought up mainly on M&B and Ansells. I think Harveys Sussex Best Bitter might be the nearest equivalent now.

retiredmartin said...

Agree entirely with your characterisations Paul, though to be fair I'm perfectly happy drinking citrus, overhopped or faddy beers as long as they're well kept and fast moving !

What annoys me is the moaning about a Greene King pub in Suffolk, an Everards pub in Leicester or St Austell pub in Cornwall not serving guest beers from faraway counties on their bars.

John Lester said...

Paul,
As you say, Harveys is probably the nearest present-day equivalent to Fremlins: it seems to me to taste much the same as it did fifty years ago, and I’m not sure I could say that about any other beer. In the early 70s, it didn’t stand out in the way it does today: it was just one of a number of excellent beers in the area, including not just Fremlins Trophy but also Shepherd Neame Bitter (quite different from today’s Master Brew), as well as Gales Bitter and King and Barnes Bitter (two other beers that were very good indeed in the early 70s but changed considerably in later years).

I’m impressed by the record of your 1974 tour, and a bit envious as I never succeeded in sampling Cooks. Did you manage to try it on draught? Frank Baillie noted that draught Best Bitter was supplied to private customers in pins, and a friend of mine who lived in Colchester recalled drinking it in a local pub. I did call at the brewery a few months before it closed and asked for a tour, and was told they were too busy that day but would be happy to accommodate me some time in the future. Unfortunately, the brewery closed before I had a chance to return. The quest for beer is littered with missed opportunities…

Paul Bailey said...

Hi John, thank-you for sharing your beer hunting experiences with us. It sounds as though you were a couple of years ahead of me, as my beer appreciation odyssey didn’t start until the summer of 1974.

Like yourself, I was able to sample yates & Jackson’s excellent beers, before they closed, and wholeheartedly agree with you regarding Fremlin’s version of Trophy Bitter (later re-named Fremlin’s Bitter). In the part of East Kent, where I grew up this cask beer from Fremlin’s was widely available, although it was sometimes spoiled by top-pressure dispense.. As you point out Fremlin’s County Ale and English Ale, were also available in bottled form.

Those were definitely good years to be young, and interested in beer!

ps. I’ve just read your follow-up comment, and I’m glad that someone else remembers the time when Shepherd Neame Master Brew was a good beer. I’ve never found out what they did to ruin it, and today, when I tell younger drinkers about how good Shep’s was, they look at me as if I’m mad!

Paul Bailey said...

Hi Stafford Paul, that’s an impressive list you’ve got there, and an achievement in itself to be able to have sampled all those “southern” beers. I missed out on both Cooks and Grays, but eventually managed to sample beers from all the other breweries. For the record, I also stayed at Patcham Youth Hostel, but that was during my pre beer drinking days!

As I said to John Lester, above, those were good days to have an interest in breweries and their beers. It was a real voyage of discovery, although it’s sad that almost half of those breweries on your list, are no longer with us.

Curmudgeon said...

I still feel a bit of excitement when visiting a tied house of one of those breweries that don't get much beyond their local area, in particular Batham's.

And when visiting a new National Inventory pub, such as the wonderful North Star at Steventon last year.

T'other Paul said...

John,
I'm reassured by your agreement with me about Fremlins and Harveys similarity.
I had Cooks Country Brew which I thought was draught but Frank Baillie has it as a bottled beer. That was in the Tindel Bar which I think I remember as an upstairs venue. Frank wrote "Also a fleet of vans doing door-to-door delivery" so not just Davenports. I remember him attending some of the earlier CAMRA AGMs.
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Paul,
That five day trip was hitch hiking and I hadn't booked any of the Youth Hostels in advance.
I also hitch hiked up north to complete the ninety brewers but had a weeks Midland Railtourer ticket for £2.95 in June 1974 that got me, with a bit of hitch hiking, to Market Bosworth, Newbold Vernon, Leicester, Stamford ( Derby railway station overnight ), Holbeach, Spalding, Stamford, Nuneaton, Derby, Birmingham, Banbury, Wolverhampton, Shrewsbury, Bishops Castle, Madeley, Wellington, Barrington, Farringdon, Reading, Henley ( Henley YH ), Cardiff, Fforestfach, Neath Abbey, Hereford and Cambridge.

John Lester said...

I can’t match Paul’s record, but I did manage to drink beer from most of the breweries listed by Frank Baillie; the exception (apart from Cooks and the Carlisle State Brewery, which ceased brewing in May 1973 – if only I’d gone a bit further north on my summer 1972 trip) was Melbourns. I recall driving past a Melbourn’s pub in late 1973 or early 1974 en route from Grantham to Oxford, but it was the middle of the afternoon, so no chance of a drink in those days. By the time I was next in those parts, the brewery had closed, sadly. On the plus side, however, I think that was the day we called at Ruddle’s brewery, and Tony Ruddle was kind enough to give us a guided tour.

Paul Bailey said...

John and Stafford Paul, I take my hat off to you both for your efforts in ticking off all those breweries in the 1974 GBG/Beer Drinker’s Companion. You achieved something that I, as a young and somewhat impressionable 19-year-old had only dreamt of, although I made several attempts at sketching the whole thing out. The accommodation side is what let me down, followed by me signing up to a summer vacation job.

I’m especially impressed by your hitch-hiking prowess, Paul. I’ve thumbed a few lifts in my time, and once hitched from Salford to Norwich in the space of a day, but that’s about it.

It’s a shame you missed Melbourne’s John, although unlike Grays, the closure of that one came out of the blue. Cooks were a bit of an anomaly though – a real “beer at home” outfit.

Mudge, I know what you mean about Batham’s, and would probably add Elgoods to the list of breweries with a tightly controlled distribution area.