Some might argue that the latter is a publication to rival CAMRA’s Good Beer Guide, but having flicked through the pages of my purchase, I don’t think that CAMRA has anything to worry about. For a start, the two guides are totally different from one another, with one concentrating solely on beer, and the other on the outlets selling the stuff; although to be fair neither is mutually exclusive from the other.
To be truthful, I bought the Good Pub Guide as an alternative to the GBG, primarily because the latter seemed to be morphing into the good micro-pub and micro-brewery tap guide and I wanted to see what alternatives were on offer. However, having parted with £8.00 for my purchase I’m extremely glad I didn’t pay the cover-price of £16.00.
Running to over 1,700 pages, and listing around 5,000 pubs the GPG, is an unwieldy publication, and definitely not one for carrying around, or even leaving in the glove-compartment of the car. Apart from some mono-chrome maps at the rear, the guide is totally devoid of illustrations, making it an extremely boring read, with about as much appeal as a telephone directory, but before dismissing it totally out of hand, let’s look at what it has to offer.
Now in its 37th edition the Good Pub Guide claims to be "Britain's bestselling travel guide", and the only truly independent guide of its kind. It also claims that its yearly updates, and reader recommendations ensure that only the best pubs make the grade.
Its publishers state that not only will you find a “fantastic range of countryside havens, bustling inns and riverside retreats, but also a growing number of gastropubs and pubs specialising in malt whiskey and craft beers,” – all very different from what CAMRA’s guide has to offer, but do the publisher’s claims stack up, and how do they compare with what CAMRA has to say about its own guide?
For a start, CAMRA’s Good Beer Guide is also truly independent and almost certainly far better researched than its erstwhile rival. It too is updated on a yearly basis, following recommendations from local CAMRA members, who monitor and provide feedback on pubs within their local branch area, over the year.
Most branches encourage members to nominate pubs for the guide, on a yearly basis, and once a list has been drawn up, detailed inspections will be carried out, followed by a democratic selection process, in order to ensure that only the top-notch pubs go into the guide.
I’m not sure how selection for the GPG works, but according to the publishers the 2019 edition contains 1,140 fully inspected main entries plus 1,931 entries recommended by readers. Interestingly these are entries which “Have yet to be inspected”.
Personally, I found these reader’s recommendations far more interesting, and useful, than the main entries; especially as the latter place far too much focus on what’s on the menu, to the extent of listing the dishes available. Surely that’s what the individual pub websites are for? But on the subject of on-line viewing, the Good Pub Guide maintains its own website, listing 55,000 pubs, and what’s more it’s free to access. So why on earth would people shell out for the paper and ink version?
I envisage using the Good Pub Guide on an occasional basis, mainly as a reference to find a decent pub in an unfamiliar part of the country. But with the Good Beer Guide App on my phone, plus access to CAMRA’s WhatPub; both of which give the information I am looking for in a concise, illustrated and much more portable form, I don’t really see me making that much use of it.
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The Good Pub Guide, or at least its main entries, is basically a guide to nice middle-class dining pubs. Which is fine if that's what you want. Also remember that, unlike the GBG, pubs have to pay for inclusion.
Different guides for different markets I'd say. However whilst the best of the GBG is perfection I'd suggest that the GPG is far more consistent in its standards despite the methodology. WhatPub seems to be increasingly out of date and some the survey dates, even for GBG pubs are worryingly out of date and inaccurate in some parts of the UK.
Mudge, I carried out some prior research, as it was always my impression that pubs had to pay for entry in the Good Pub Guide. However, I couldn’t find any reference to this. Perhaps the fee only applies to those pubs which qualify for full entry?
Yes, definitely plenty of nice, middle-class, dining pubs, but as the TheWickingMan says, “different guides for different markets”.
As I said in the main article, the guide will prove useful when planning out trips.
Charges for main listings were introduced in 2011 (£200 back then). Some more basic pubs refused to pay, many dining pubs rely on the custom from West Londoners driving out to Oxon, Berks and Surrey for their suppers.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2041555/A-write-Good-Pub-Guide-That-200--landlords-revolt-ransom.html
Link to item. Apologies it's the Mail !
Thanks Martin, I suppose the Daily Mail does have its uses, apart from something to light the fire with!
Interesting to note that other similar guides don't make a charge for entry, including CAMRA's very own Good Beer Guide. It's also interesting to see their reasoning - "This is a necessary change without which we could not cover our research and production costs, because of the way people are using the Guide – with fewer buying the printed version, and more using the internet version or the iPhone app."
Like I said, the GPG's publishers have rather shot themselves in the foot over this.
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