tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6722137562852954269.post1602630036506405543..comments2024-03-27T16:17:17.419+00:00Comments on Paul's Beer & Travel Blog: Nothing Fishy About BeerPaul Baileyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09678639237696546268noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6722137562852954269.post-82222027185254467722023-07-04T12:14:52.893+01:002023-07-04T12:14:52.893+01:00Thanks for nice posting.Yes When beer is ready to ...Thanks for nice posting.Yes When beer is ready to be racked into casks, it typically contains around one million yeast cells per millilitre.<br />Beer analysis has always been a high-tech enterprise inside the laboratories of the large industrial brewers.If you want a perfect brewing beer then Praras Biosciences Pvt Ltd is the best place for you in India.because they the best researchers from across the entire spectrum of beer and brewing science.<br />Surendra Patelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12449184586603906541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6722137562852954269.post-89359715579391339032016-09-24T06:08:51.003+01:002016-09-24T06:08:51.003+01:00Drink with your tastebuds not your eyes. Point in ...Drink with your tastebuds not your eyes. Point in case American beer's on cask at the GBBF this year. All bright and clear, all I tried were flat, tired, and out of condition and lacking body. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6722137562852954269.post-14627461932074929112016-09-19T19:32:03.434+01:002016-09-19T19:32:03.434+01:00The fact that it’s almost impossible to determine ...The fact that it’s almost impossible to determine what is the “correct” degree of haziness, or to answer the question, “When does hazy become cloudy”, makes this whole issue so open to interpretation, as to be unworkable. <br /><br />Whilst I appreciate some of the sentiments behind the desire to go for a more “natural” product, free from animal derivatives (I am not a vegetarian, by the way), it takes us into uncharted waters, and turns decades of cellar practice on its head.<br /><br />As other commentators, as well as me, have pointed out, un-fined beer gives carte-blanche to any lazy or unscrupulous publican, to serve up a glass of milky-looking, yeast-laden liquid. The unsuspecting drinker will have little or no luck in trying to return it, because “It’s supposed to be hazy; the brewery say so!”<br /><br />Another example of the Law of Unintended Consequences, arising out of a genuine desire to be more encompassing, and more inclusive.<br />Paul Baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09678639237696546268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6722137562852954269.post-17132006477248239672016-09-18T14:05:53.372+01:002016-09-18T14:05:53.372+01:00And, as Tandleman has often pointed out, if a beer...And, as Tandleman has often pointed out, if a beer is "meant" to be a bit hazy, how can you tell if it's much cloudier than intended and, what is more, how can you convince the bar staff?Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6722137562852954269.post-65958519568249144312016-09-18T13:39:27.470+01:002016-09-18T13:39:27.470+01:00With one or two possible exceptions. e.g. wheat be...With one or two possible exceptions. e.g. wheat beer, I don't really accept that any real ale is 'supposed' to be hazy. I was once told that an unclear beer that I was very familiar with was supposed to be like that; it wasn't, of course. As I asserted in my own blog post on the topic, attempting to get drinkers to accept hazy beer allows less scrupulous pubs to claim that beer served prematurely, not looked after properly, or even past its best, is meant to look cloudy.RedNevhttp://rednev-rearm.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6722137562852954269.post-8206819119446772802016-09-17T20:36:42.397+01:002016-09-17T20:36:42.397+01:00Much of this discussion hinges around the question...Much of this discussion hinges around the question, “Is the beer supposed to be hazy?” If the answer is yes, the next question is, “Who determines the degree of haziness?” <br /><br />By this I mean is the level of haze controlled before the beer leaves the brewery? Here, I’m thinking about beers like Zwickelbier/Naturtrüb/Kellerbier in Germany and Nefiltrovaný in the Czech Republic, where the amount of suspended yeast present is carefully controlled, prior to despatch. Or is the level of haze controlled by how the beer is looked after in the pub cellar?<br /><br />With the latter, I’m referring specifically to un-fined cask-conditioned ales; beers which would eventually drop bright, or reasonably bright, if left for long enough, but which in practice are quite likely to be racked for a minimal amount of time, and end up looking like pea soup. The hapless drinker, returning such a glass, is on a hiding to nothing here, as the landlord would quite rightly turn round and say, “It’s meant to be cloudy; the brewery says so!”<br /><br />This is the danger with un-fined cask beer, because who determines exactly how hazy the beer is supposed to be? I wrote about this problem back in January 2014. http://baileysbeerblog.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/clouding-issue.html<br /><br />StringersBeer, you are right to question the Vegetarian Society’s motives on this issue, but until a suitable plant-based alternative which is every bit as effective as isinglass, is developed, they will have to accept the status quo. Either that, or only endorse un-fined or filtered beers.<br /><br />In my experience many “veggies” turn a blind eye when it comes to drinking beer which has been fined with isinglass. The fact that it’s a processing aid, and that little, if any, ends up in the drinker’s glass, should leave them with a clear conscience over this issue.<br />Paul Baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09678639237696546268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6722137562852954269.post-61382366183420415022016-09-17T18:07:41.399+01:002016-09-17T18:07:41.399+01:00The Vegetarian Society have got things completely ...The Vegetarian Society have got things completely arse-upwards when they say "very few obvious ways to identify whether or not it has been used". Brewers (and their chums in marketing) will be perfectly happy to tell the world when the beer's suitable for veggies - we'll generally put it on the label and our websites and go on about it on the social media - it's a selling point (and there's millions of veggies in the UK). Otherwise - it probably isn't. <br /><br />What I suspect they actually want (the activists, at least) is to mobilise non-veggies "yuk response" to pressure the industry to reject animal derived products, because animals. I've got no problems with veggies making an ethical choice - I can't see why they want the cost of this choice to be borne by anyone else but themselves. That's not a moral position but rather one of entitlement.StringersBeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12573068197944669997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6722137562852954269.post-39182222663532326512016-09-17T16:05:27.579+01:002016-09-17T16:05:27.579+01:00To me it depends on what sort of beer it is Mudgie...To me it depends on what sort of beer it is Mudgie. Yes, if it's TT Landlord or something of that ilk (solid & traditional) then it should be exceptionally bright. If it's something a bit more progressive and specifically unfined and unfiltered then it's not only OK but desirable. <br /><br />I would cite the case of North Ridings' exceptional award winning Peasholm Pale which is even tastier in it's unfined & unfiltered version and is more than hazy in appearance.<br /><br />I suppose it depends on your overall outlook - there are still people I know who still refuse to use any form of digital communication, and are proud of it. Some would say, 'wake up and smell the coffee.' I would say, 'different isn't wrong.'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6722137562852954269.post-84151180455366056592016-09-17T15:08:06.038+01:002016-09-17T15:08:06.038+01:00I know from long experience that even a "slig...I know from long experience that even a "slightly hazy" beer is normally a sign of there being something wrong with it.<br /><br />OK, if there's a just a slight cast, I'll probably drink it and then move on somewhere else, but anything more than that, and back it goes.<br /><br />And the best way to encourage people to switch to lager or mass-market keg is to start spreading the view that haze is acceptable in real ales.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.com